Ep. 33

Why is real change so hard?

Leaders Talk – with Zoe Cohen. Zoe is a Coach, Consultant, a Climate and Social Activist with Extinction Rebellion UK and calls herself a truth-teller. She is an inspiring person who has made it her goal to do everything she can to make our world a better place and who would even go to jail for her beliefs.

In our Podcast she walks us through her life story and tells us how she developed from being a manager to a coach and finally to a climate and social activist and how her thinking changed along the way. She talks to Karsten Drath about the need of degrowth, about what is limited on our earth and what is not and why we have to think generations ahead. She tells us why not enough people have become active yet and why “polite, non-disruptive stuff doesn’t change anything”.